Rafale vs CAC PAC JF-17 Thunder Full Compares

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In this blog, I will compare Rafael vs CAC PAC JF-17 Thunder first of all, let’s know a little about these two fighter planes, then, first of all, start with Rafael.

Rafale

Rafale is a twin-engine canard based delta wing multirole fighter aircraft made in France, designed by Dassault Aviation of France, and also manufactured by Dassault.

Rafale can perform almost all types of mission scores such as air supremacy, interdiction, aerial reconnaissance, ground support, in-depth strike, anti-ship operation, and nuclear strike. Hence it is also called Omni Role Fighter Plane.

Rafale’s first flight took place on 4 July 1986, its demo variant, followed by a test flight of its first operational variant on 19 May 1991 and introduced on 18 May 2001.

It is currently being used by the French Airforce, French navy, Egyptian Airforce, and it is also going to use the Indian Airforce.

How many units of Rafale have been made?

Rafale production started in 1986, and 165 units have been made till July of 2018.

How much does Rafale cost?

Rafale’s fly by cost for its variance can range from $ 76 million to $ 89 million and is priced in 2013 and 14, after which it keeps increasing from 3% to 4% every year.

CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder

The JF-17 Thunder is a lightweight multirole single-engine combat aircraft made by China and Pakistan jointly developed by CAC and PAC.

JF-17 can be used for aerial recognition, ground attack, and aircraft interception missions
The actual name of JF-17 is fight-17, which in short is called JF-17.

The first flight of JF-17 took place on 25 August 2003 and was launched on 12 March 2007.
It is currently used by the Pakistani Air Force and is used by countries like Nigeria and Myanmar in the future.

More than 100 units have been built, of which 50 are of block-1 standard, and 50 are of block 2 standards. Its block-1 variants cost $ 25 million, and block 2 is priced at $ 28 million, and block The price of 3 variants can be around 32 million, which is not fully developed yet.

Rafale v/s CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder Specifications

SpecificationsRafaleCAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder
Crew1-21
Length15.27meters14.93meters
Wingspan10.80meters9.48meters
Height5.34meter4.72meters
Empty Weight9850-10600kg6586kg
Loaded Weight15000kg9000kg
Maximum Takeoff Weight24500kg12383kg
Fuel Capacity4700kg2329kg
Engine2x SNECMA M88-21x KLIMOV RD-93
Dry Thrust50.04kilonewton each49.4kilonewton
Thrust With Afterburner75kilonewton each85.3kilonewton

Rafale can be single or twin-seater according to its variant; its length is 15.27 meters, wingspan 10.8 meters, and height 5.34 meters.

JF-17 is a single-seater aircraft with a length of 14.93 m, a wingspan of 9.48 m, and a height of 7.72 

Rafale’s empty weight can range from 9850 kg to 10600 kg according to its variants, its loaded weight is 15000 kg, and it can take off with a maximum load of up to 24500 kg.

The empty weight of JF-17 is 6546 KG. The loaded weight is around 9000 kg, and it can take off with a maximum load of up to 12383 kg.

Rafale’s single-seater variants can carry internal fuel up to 4700 kg, and twin-seater variants can carry internal fuel of up to 4400 kg.

The same CAC / PAC JF-17 thunder can carry up to 2329 kg of internal fuel.

Rafale is equipped with two special m88-2 after-burning turbofan engines, which can generate the thrust of about 100 kg newton without an afterburner and up to 150 kilonewtons with an afterburner.

The same JF-17 is powered by a Klimov RD93 after-burning turbofan engine that can generate thrust up to 49.4 kg newton without an afterburner and 85.3 kg newton with an afterburner.

Rafale v/s CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder performance

PerformanceRafaleCAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder
Maximum SpeedMach 1.8Mach 1.6
Range3700+km3482km
Combat Radius1852+km1352km
Service ceiling15235meter16916meters
Rate of climb304.8 meter/secondXXX
Thrust/Weight0.988(100%Fuel)0.95
maximum G-load+9/-3.6G(+11G)+8G/-3G

Rafale’s maximum speed is Mach 1.8, the range is more than 3700 km, and its Combat Radius is about 1852km.

Rafale’s service ceiling is up to 15,235 meters, and the rate of crime is 304.8 meters per second.

The same JF-17 has a service ceiling of 16,916 meters, and information about its climb rate is not available yet.

Rafale’s thrust by weight ratio is 0.988 in a fully loaded condition, and it can bear a maximum load from 9g to 3.6g.

And in an emergency situation, it can also bear load up to 11g
The same JF-17 has a thrust by weight ratio of 0.95, and it can beer a G load ranging from plus8g to 3g.

Rafale vs CAC PAC JF-17 Thunder

Rafale vs CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder Armament

ArmamentRafaleCAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder
Gun30mm Auto cannon With 125round1x23mm GSH-23-2 cannon
Hardpoints147
Payload9500kg4325kg

As a primary weapon in Rafale, it has a 30 mm autocannon consisting of 130 rounds, plus 14 hardpoints in which it can carry payloads of up to 9500 kg.

The JF-17 features a 23mm GSH-23-2 Canon as the primary weapon and has a total of 7 hardpoints that can carry payloads of up to 4325 kg.

Air to Air missile

RafaleCAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder
MAGIC 2 (15km)PL-5E2(18km)
MBDA MICA IR OR EM (80km)SD-10A,PL12(70 to 100)
MBDA METEOR (100+)(60+km NESC)PL-9C (22km)

Rafale can fire missile-like magic 2, MICA IR or EM, and meteor in the category of air to air missile.

The same JF-17 can fire PL-5E2, PL-9c, PL-12, and SD-10A missiles under the category of Air Tow Air Missiles.

Air to Ground

RafaleCAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder
MBDA Apache, MBDA Storm Shadow/SCALP-EGCM-102 Anti-Radiation Missile
AASM-Hammer, AS-30LC-802Ak Anti-Ship Missile
MBDA AM 39-Exocet, ASMP-A Nuclear MissileCM-400AKG Anti-Ship Missile

Rafale can carry MBDA Apache, SCALP-EG, Hammer, AS-30L, AM39 Exocet, and ASMP-A nuclear missiles under the category of Air to Ground Missiles.

With this, it can carry different types of guided and unguided bombs.

The same JF-17 can fire a missile in the air to ground missile categories like CM-102 anti-radiation missile, C-802AK anti-ship missile, and CM-400AKG anti-ship missile. It can also carry bombs of a wide variety. Can do

Rafale vs CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder Avionics

RafaleCAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder
Thales RBE2-AA AESA RaderKLJ-7 V2 APDFire Control Radar
Thales SPECTERA E/W SystemAselPOD EO/IR Targeting System
Thales/SAGEM-OSF and (IRST) systemKG300G Self-Protection Jamming pod

Rafale is equipped with Thales RBE2-AA AESA radar, apart from Thales’s spectra E / W system, SAGEM’s OSF and (IRST) system, targeting pod, erose’s Recognizance pod, and multifunctional targeting pod and Air to air refueling capability.

The same JF-17 is fitted with KLJ-7V2 APDfire control Radar and can also be fitted with an extremely ASELPOD EO / IR targeting system and KG300G self-protection jamming pod.

Rafale vs CAC PAC JF-17 Thunder

Rafale vs CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder Compares

In terms of size, Rafael is slightly larger than JF-17 and can takeoff with a higher load than JF-17.

Rafale is far ahead of JF-17 in terms of speed, range, and combat radius and can also carry more internal fuel than JF-17.

The JF-17 has advantages in terms of service ceiling, but in thrust by weight ratio and maximum loading capacity, Rafale can easily outrun the JF-17.

In the category of Air to Air Missile, Rafale’s Meteor missile has a range of more than 100 kilometers, and its NESC is more than 60 kilometers, which is called the best BVR missile in the world, although its range is said to be more than 100 kilometers. Experts believe that the meteor missile can range from 300 to 400 km apart, Rafael’s MICA missile has a range of 80 km, and the Magic 2 missile has a range of 15 km.

Talking about JF-17, its PL-5EA missile has a range of 18 km. PL-9C missile has a range of 22 km, and PL-12, and SD-10A missile ranges from 70 to 100 km.

So in the category of air to air missile, Rafael has a lot of advantages over JF-17

Rafale’s MBDA Apache missile range in the air to ground missile category is up to 140 km. SCALP-EG range is more than 560 km. Hammer missile range is up to 60 km. AS30L missile range is up to 11 km. Exocet missile range is 180 Kilometers, and the range of ASMP-A nuclear missile is more than 500 kilometers.

The range of CM 400 AKG anti-ship missile of JF-17 is up to 280 km, and the range of C-80 2AK anti-ship missile is up to 180 km.

Rafale v/s CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder Radars

The detection range of Rafale’s RBE2-AA AESA radar is from 230 km to 250 km. It targets 5 MSQ targets from 200 kilometers to 1 MSQ target from 130 kilometers, and 0.1 MSQ targets to about 75 kilometers. Can detect from.

JF-17 has an average rate of a crosssection of 3.5 MSQ, so accordingly, Rafale can detect JF-17 from a distance of about 170 kilometers. Can detect from a distance of kilometers and can detect a target of 1 MSQ within 55 to 60 kilometers.

Rafale average radar cross-section can be up to 2 MSQ; JF-17 can detect Rafale between 70 and 80 km.

Speaking of BVR dogfight, Rafale can easily detect JF-17 from a distance of 170 km, and Rafale has many advantages due to its meteor missile and direct -17 Rafale in BVR range due to meteor missile. Can kill JF-17 long before it is done.

Even in the same close-range dogfight, the JF-17 cannot compete with Rafael because Rafael is more agile than the JF-17, and Rafael can also bear a much higher G load than the JF-17.

So whether close range or BVR dogfight, JF-17 can never face Rafael because Rafael is technologically far ahead of JF-17, and it is better than JF-17 in every way and if both of these ever face If faced, JF-17 can never return to its base

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